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basically i know of the little trick where ya pull the relay out (drivers side kick plate) bit i cant seem to find this,

 

so iv beem having a look at the diagram at the ignition relay? and i was wondering if i could just put a live onto the common of the switch (red arrow, see below)

 

powerroofdiagram.jpg

 

and if i do do this will it hurt anything, ie blow fuses, cause any other problems

 

cheers guys

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Guest brendanj9554

yes you can bypass the relay on the roof so you can operate your roof while driving,

it wont blow any fuses as the circuit is fused elsewhere,

the purpose off the relay is only to allow roof to operate on 1 turn off key.

its a safty feature, cause if you were driving at 70mph and operated the roof the frame would twist etc etc

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cheers for that guys, im guna run my new live through its own switch b4 it gets to the roof switch, so then i will have to flick the switch on to give it power and then push the roof buttons, put the roof up/down n then switch it off

 

job done

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Guest robman1

isnt it illegal to operate a roof whilst driving cos it will catch the wind and you are distracted??

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only illegal if ya get caught m8 :wink:

 

im not sure m8, if i do get a tug ill just plead ignorance lol

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dont drop it when you are travelling fast lol

 

 

I WANT TO DO THE SAME WITH MINE... THE AMOUNT OF TIMES I'VE BEEN CAUGHT OUT WITH THE ROOF DOWN WHEN THE HEAVENS HAVE DECIDED TO OPEN....AND I'M WITH YOU MARKEY IF YA CAUGHT PLEAD IGNORANCE THATS WHAT I ALWAYS TRY AND DO NOW X

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basically i know of the little trick where ya pull the relay out (drivers side kick plate) bit i cant seem to find this,

 

so iv beem having a look at the diagram at the ignition relay? and i was wondering if i could just put a live onto the common of the switch (red arrow, see below)

 

powerroofdiagram.jpg

 

and if i do do this will it hurt anything, ie blow fuses, cause any other problems

 

cheers guys

done the same with mine,i put a small switch on the dash so i dont accidently put roof down whilst driving,have to press switch then roof down button,works a treat

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Guest fatboy billy

hmmmmm how cool would it blook driving slow just casually putting the hood down driving although i dont trust myself to do it lol

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Guest markeyboy

the wires in my car are different colours to the ones staterd un the roof diagram,

 

iv goit a blue, a white and blue stripe and a green and yellow

 

any idea which 1 it will be ???

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bit more info,

 

yellow and green, and blue n white both have 12volts when the ignition is on and 0 votts when the ignition is off,

 

all 3 wires have +12volts when the engine is running

 

im confussed

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bit more info,

 

yellow and green, and blue n white both have 12volts when the ignition is on and 0 votts when the ignition is off,

 

all 3 wires have +12volts when the engine is running

 

im confussed

 

let us no how u get oh wiv it plz

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Guest fatboy billy
on mk4s it was easy.... just had to remove a relay from under the dash on the drivers side.... dont ask me what colour it was cuz I can't remember :biggrin:

 

so if i do that my hood will work when moving and wont stop anything else working

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So Markey boy did you manage to do it.

 

no m8, not yet,

 

cant seem to make sence of it, it could be a switched earth maby?

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basically i know of the little trick where ya pull the relay out (drivers side kick plate) bit i cant seem to find this,

 

so iv beem having a look at the diagram at the ignition relay? and i was wondering if i could just put a live onto the common of the switch (red arrow, see below)

 

powerroofdiagram.jpg

 

and if i do do this will it hurt anything, ie blow fuses, cause any other problems

 

cheers guys

 

Hiya Mark,

 

To read the drawing correct I need to know what operates S1 and S2, as these along with RIII and RIV form the flip flop that decides whether the pump is going to spin or not.

Basically pump forward and reverse relays RI & RII have their coils switched on the -ve side through the flip flop.

With Key in R if SI or SII is closed nothing will happen cos R1&2 coils will be OC through conatct RIII, if S1&2 are both open pump will run.

With key in 15 (assume R still alive) RIV is pulled in, this overides S1&2 and connects RIII to earth so it pulls in everytime you flick the switch, open circuiting the pump relays RI&II and stoppping pump from running.

Have not seen this in real life, so dont know how S1&2 operate, but to make a clean job of it and remove RIII, RIV, SI & SII you need to connect pin 85 on either Ri or RII to -ve.

If you find out what S1 or 2 do let me know, if they are limit switches on the roof/pistons themselves, it would be better to leave them in circuit

The relay that people pulll will be RIV, which leaves the circuit operational as long as both SI and II are open.

 

Hope it helps mate

 

oh which wires which,

get yer meter out, ignition off,

the wire from ignition shorted to fuse is "R".

the wire from ignition shorted to R4 pin 86 is "15"

other one "50" dont lookk like it does anything.

would imagine both R and 15 live when running.

 

 

going for a lie down

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theres the techincal answer i was looking for, just wish i was smart enough to understand it lol

 

guna start taking the car apart now and poke everything with my meter, on the hunt for relay RIV now

 

 

:bowdown: a big thank you mr sjc sir :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

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Guest a93droptop

after reading this mine seems a bit of a bodge! but it works!! also takes about five mins t do. . . find the relay behind the divers side kick panel for the roof, theres 3 behind mine and it was the 1 nearest the bulkhead, take the top off the relay and insulate the contact, job done. . . ive done this on both of my ragtops and the last one i did about 8yrs ago with no problems, if thats any help.

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