Guest alphalc Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 I have a Doubt about MK4 struture. Here on Brazil is common the MK4 escorts have problems on structure with Cracks, cabbie or close and mainly 1.8 versions. These cracks also appear on European MK4 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alanman Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Never seen that over here. I'd have put that down to impact or shock. Do you have a lot of speed humps over there?? Speed hump + hard suspension + not slowing down may cause that sort of damage. Either way, it doesnt look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingergman Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 never seen that, but as said, it dont look good, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alphalc Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Never seen that over here. I'd have put that down to impact or shock. Do you have a lot of speed humps over there?? Speed hump + hard suspension + not slowing down may cause that sort of damage. Either way, it doesnt look good. These cracks hapen with ~40% os escort here even with standard suspension. With hard suspension or if you put that down in few months these chacks apear easily. Is practically rule to use bars of reinforcement with hard suspension. The Brazilian roads are not all good ones, but this problem didn´t hapen on MK5 or MK7, only with MK3 and MK4 and easier with 1.8 engine. Some times we imagine the possibility to have a structural alteration for economy here, comparing photos does not seem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alphalc Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Every time in same location ... Concidence, bad roads, project fail or both ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Do not leave it like that, it needs fixing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alphalc Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 (edited) All the cars of the pictures had already fixed. The solution is to weld the crack. Some extreme fadigue cases need to weld a reinforcement plate or cut and replace part of structure because open again after weld on one month or week. Edited May 20, 2010 by alphalc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeMcCarthy Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 thats bad, im sure that rights a few of them off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lee81 Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Never seen one over here like that. There seems to be a fair amount of corrosion around those points. I know on other ford models that some detined for hot dry climates were not treated with wax oil to box sections and no corrosion protection to the underside other than primer. None of the cars have a 1.8 litre engine in other than a diesel version here. Its possible that these cars were sent to a country like this and then on to brazil were the protection is needed. Just like Japanese imports need protecting as the corrosion just isn't so much of a problem over there so they don't bother. Have heard about this problem on very high powered Escort Mk4 Rs Turbo's subjected to track action running slick tyres but never seen it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alphalc Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 May be that the 1.8 litre engine is stronger than the planned one for the original project ... Brazilian original project is to 1.6 litre engine. After Auto Latina Joint Veture (FORD and VW) on Brazil, the MK4 received 1.8 litre vw engine version. Corrosion is rare on chack location, on picture the corrosion is after weld and not repaint or treat, loosing corrosion protection. Another possibility is the support points to vw engine, not correctly planed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lee81 Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Put up some pics of a Cabby with 1.8 VW engine. Just out of interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alphalc Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 Some pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spenny Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 does it say on the vin plate where the car was made . most cabbys here are german built .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest murcus Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 dont see why the 1.8 engine would make any differance, as theres not much more weight, maybe a bag of sugar, and the power is the same as the 1.6, although most people run well over 220bhp with the rs turbo engines, and never any problem with stress fractures i think its more with poor suspension or bad ball joints etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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