Guest R5CPK Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Hi. Replaced the motor and rams on my mk4 electric hood today. I had a problem finding out the correct fluid to top the motor up. My local dealer did not know and it didn't say in either my owners manual or Haynes manual. I eventually found out from a main dealer so thought I'd post it on here in case anybody is in the same boat. Correct stuff is Ford part number 13841104 apparently this is the same for all year cabriolets. I paid £9 + VAT for a litre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest technoferret Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Correct stuff is Ford part number 13841104 apparently this is the same for all year cabriolets. I paid £9 + VAT for a litre. Thanks mate, really useful post, I've been after some of this stuff for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest saino Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 my local ford dealer said this part number is wrong as they are all 7 digit numbers also when he searched and found stuff it was £18 odd plus vat for 500ml is this too much to pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allblue Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Is it too much too pay? Yes Go to your VW Dealer and ask for some Hydraulic fluid G004 000. 500ml = £7. This is the fluid recommended by VW for use in its cabriolet pumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 my local ford dealer said this part number is wrong as they are all 7 digit numbers also when he searched and found stuff it was £18 odd plus vat for 500ml is this too much to pay If your intrested ive a tin of ford fluid sitting here which i no longer need, Its un opened but does have a few dings to the can.. Ill do the fluid and postage for £8quid if your intrested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Uxb1979 Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 I had the same problem a couple of days ago and was told by a mechanic that i could use trolley jack fluid as its the same minerals hope this any help to anyone and only costs £ 3.50! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingergman Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 tbh i dont really know much about roof fluid as ive never had to top mine up, but surely its worth paying whatever 20quid or so for some, if it gets your roof going and working sweet then in my eyes thats a bargain lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dinky Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 excuse me for being a bit thick but where do you fill the foof pump up new to all this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingergman Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 there should be a top up bit on the pump/motor mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest victoriarutter Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Hi there, where did you get it from in the end, mine was palying up but turned out to be a loose relay, but noticed that fluid is well below min, thanks, vicky xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshlad Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 i use lucas hydraulic fluid renewer in all the ones ive had bought it off ebay years ago hydraulic stop leak and booster its called i just fill the resorvoir with it whether theres some already in it or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Art Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 the filler plug for topping up the hydraulic power roof pump is sitting on the top of the pump reservoir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorjeanie Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Hi All. Had my MK4 since 2000. Started to get problems a couple of years ago and started to play with pumps. I now have three, but only one cap! Anyone know where I can get the cap which holds the fluid? I then had problems with getting the fluid. Ford wanted a fortune, but my colleague gave me some hydraulic fluid which seemed to work, but I started to get problems in opening and closing the roof. I decided to check all pipes, rams and pump.After cleaning all the orifices and blowing out the pipes and pump,I decided refill with brake fluid (Haynes manual lists Duckham's Universal Brake Fluid). Yes, it worked, but only moved 6 " before blowing the fuse (30 amp). What is the correct fuse rating for the pump! Looking at the Haynes diagrams, I had connected the pipes accordingly, but when I perused a print out of the layout from Ford - using a magnifying glass to trace the spidery drawing- it seems that the upper pipe feeds from the ram are connected to the RHS (viewed from the boot) of the pump plastic cap and the lower pipes to the LHS. It worked! It even opened and closed on the correct button! However, the pump seems to run on after the roof is closed/open and the fuse blows unless you are quick enough to hit the switch! I think that now I have the pump connected properly to operate the roof, I think I will replace this pump with the one that seems to run quieter, once I change the cap over! This is a 1990 model, and I always get a comment from the MOT tester as to its excellent condition, and I am looking at a full respray on it once I can save enough money from my pension, a new roof and see about tidying the interior trim, no rips or tears in the seats, just scratches on the plastic. Possibly one of the best cars that I have owned, has always started on the button and can still pull a ton. On the autobahns, not here, no,no,no! My wife is the main driver and as we are starting to get Arthur-Right-Us and other age -related problems, I'd like to know if there is a way of fitting power steering to it, what type and where from? Phewww! Bit of a liturgy, but Happy New Year!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorjeanie Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Hi All. Had my MK4 since 2000. Started to get problems a couple of years ago and started to play with pumps. I now have three, but only one cap! Anyone know where I can get the cap which holds the fluid? I then had problems with getting the fluid. Ford wanted a fortune, but my colleague gave me some hydraulic fluid which seemed to work, but I started to get problems in opening and closing the roof. I decided to check all pipes, rams and pump.After cleaning all the orifices and blowing out the pipes and pump,I decided refill with brake fluid (Haynes manual lists Duckham's Universal Brake Fluid). Yes, it worked, but only moved 6 " before blowing the fuse (30 amp). What is the correct fuse rating for the pump! Looking at the Haynes diagrams, I had connected the pipes accordingly, but when I perused a print out of the layout from Ford - using a magnifying glass to trace the spidery drawing- it seems that the upper pipe feeds from the ram are connected to the RHS (viewed from the boot) of the pump plastic cap and the lower pipes to the LHS. It worked! It even opened and closed on the correct button! However, the pump seems to run on after the roof is closed/open and the fuse blows unless you are quick enough to hit the switch! I think that now I have the pump connected properly to operate the roof, I think I will replace this pump with the one that seems to run quieter, once I change the cap over! This is a 1990 model, and I always get a comment from the MOT tester as to its excellent condition, and I am looking at a full respray on it once I can save enough money from my pension, a new roof and see about tidying the interior trim, no rips or tears in the seats, just scratches on the plastic. Possibly one of the best cars that I have owned, has always started on the button and can still pull a ton. On the autobahns, not here, no,no,no! My wife is the main driver and as we are starting to get Arthur-Right-Us and other age -related problems, I'd like to know if there is a way of fitting power steering to it, what type and where from? Phewww! Bit of a liturgy, but Happy New Year!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorjeanie Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) Hi All. Had my MK4 since 2000. Started to get problems a couple of years ago and started to play with pumps. I now have three, but only one cap! Anyone know where I can get the cap which holds the fluid? I then had problems with getting the fluid. Ford wanted a fortune, but my colleague gave me some hydraulic fluid which seemed to work, but I started to get problems in opening and closing the roof. I decided to check all pipes, rams and pump.After cleaning all the orifices and blowing out the pipes and pump,I decided refill with brake fluid (Haynes manual lists Duckham's Universal Brake Fluid). Yes, it worked, but only moved 6 " before blowing the fuse (30 amp). What is the correct fuse rating for the pump! Looking at the Haynes diagrams, I had connected the pipes accordingly, but when I perused a print out of the layout from Ford - using a magnifying glass to trace the spidery drawing- it seems that the upper pipe feeds from the ram are connected to the RHS (viewed from the boot) of the pump plastic cap and the lower pipes to the LHS. It worked! It even opened and closed on the correct button! However, the pump seems to run on after the roof is closed/open and the fuse blows unless you are quick enough to hit the switch! I think that now I have the pump connected properly to operate the roof, I think I will replace this pump with the one that seems to run quieter, once I change the cap over! This is a 1990 model, and I always get a comment from the MOT tester as to its excellent condition, and I am looking at a full respray on it once I can save enough money from my pension, a new roof and see about tidying the interior trim, no rips or tears in the seats, just scratches on the plastic. Possibly one of the best cars that I have owned, has always started on the button and can still pull a ton. On the autobahns, not here, no,no,no! My wife is the main driver and as we are starting to get Arthur-Right-Us and other age -related problems, I'd like to know if there is a way of fitting power steering to it, what type and where from? Phewww! Bit of a liturgy, but Happy New Year!! Edited January 6, 2014 by motorjeanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allblue Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Can I re-iterate that brake fluid (which is highly corrosive) should NOT be used in hydraulic systems other than the braking system. If it leaks it will strip your paintwork and make future work on the pump/hydraulic system more dangerous. Power steering fluid equivalents should only be used, such as the type I mentioned above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshlad Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 but only one cap! Do you mean the resorvoir with four small bolts? thats what i need? tried gluing mine after it broke, but that didnt hold up to good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest baz9707 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Having problems with my roof now press the button and nothing, have a spare pump with a broken fluid holder wondering weather to switch and change the holders, or it could be something easy to fix on the one thats already on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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