Guest PeeWee Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 Hi there. Right now I have a rather serious problem. My door would stay shut only for me to find the safety mechanism catch was worn & not functioning. I went to the scrap yard & removed a working lock mechanism from a tin top mk6, tricky but not impossible. Now I attempted to remove mine but I have an obstruction, a long metal bar. Im not sure if or should I attempt to remove this & I have included pics to show my situation. If anyone has any advice at all on the doors & removal of oarts from it I would be very grateful as I have now rendered my cabby undriveable. Thanks in advance. Pete. Bottom of the bar. Top of the bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest essycabbb5 Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 the long bar you are talking about looks to me if im not wrong to be the window slide runner, they are bolted in and clipped at the top, if you remove the bolts you will have to slide the bottom towards the front of the door to alow it to be unclipped from the top , then when refitting you wil have to slide it back in before lining the bolt holes back up. it isnt a hard job but you need to make sure its clipped back in at the top to enable your window to work propely. hope this helps but i would deffo give it a go as in my experiance of stripping doors b4 painting its a easy job just be carefull of your hands on sharp edges when removing as it dam hurts lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PeeWee Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 the long bar you are talking about looks to me if im not wrong to be the window slide runner, they are bolted in and clipped at the top, if you remove the bolts you will have to slide the bottom towards the front of the door to alow it to be unclipped from the top , then when refitting you wil have to slide it back in before lining the bolt holes back up. it isnt a hard job but you need to make sure its clipped back in at the top to enable your window to work propely. hope this helps but i would deffo give it a go as in my experiance of stripping doors b4 painting its a easy job just be carefull of your hands on sharp edges when removing as it dam hurts lol Thanks so much for that, ill attack it again tomorow as its a bit dark now. Do you know if the mechanism I salvaged from a tintop should be the same? Also, will the window not drop if I remove the bar? Already found the sharp edges lol. Thanks again you just lifted my hopes up 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingergman Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 the bar looks like its been rivited on at the bottom? you will be able to remove the bar, and the window will fall out of place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PeeWee Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 the bar looks like its been rivited on at the bottom? you will be able to remove the bar, and the window will fall out of place Well its not rivited thank god, theres an access hole under the door & its a nut you remove. This enables me to pull the bar about 1 inch toward me, all I can think is that now I have the top bolt in the above pic removed that the bar should lift & unclip for removal? Just uploading pics and a vid showing how the bar moves without the bolts in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PeeWee Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Ok here are the two pics in different bar positions & the video of the bar movement. Â http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/kwikfix/Junk/?action=view¤t=IMG_0177.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RelaxedDiver Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 hiya, had the same problem with my doorcatch the other month, its a fiddly job to do. you have to take the rubber off of the top of the door, unbolt the window from the regulator (and maybe the slide bar, cant remember exactly) and gently manoeuvre it around until you can slide it out the top. you can then unbolt the runner at the top, which should allow you enough wiggle room, with the bar being free at the top to get the lock mechanism out. it was much easier as a two man job as someone could hold the top of the window, while the other got the bolts off the slider.  good luck  alternatively you could go round with the window open and you arm over the door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PeeWee Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Thanks for that, it must be the rubber strip stopping me moving it any more then as I didnt remove that bit. Is the rubber easy to remove (im gathering you mean where the window meets the top of the door). Also, did you replace the mechanism and was it the same as a regular tin top lock? Thank you for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cabbytech Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Did you get this sorted ? or are you still having problems with the catch ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PeeWee Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Hi there, yes im still having problems. Im not sure if I have the time to tackle it till the weekend so need as much info as possible please. If this includes removal of the window then I need info on this too as I have never done it either.I was hoping the bar could be moved or removed to a point where I could get the mechanism out. Thanks for any info in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PeeWee Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Anyone? Â Im pulling what hair out I have left trying to get this catch out & running out of options fast. My car is also due for MOT which I obviously cant even think of in this state. Any advice would be gratefully accepted. All the best & thanks in advance for any help. Pete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PeeWee Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Ok! Well I still havnt done this yet but now I seem to have the info at hand to do the job. I have scanned the info so as to hopefully help others here complete this task (I know theres at least two other members stuck in my position from reading through past threads). Below are the text & diagrams to remove the window (needed to access the lock & manouvre it from the door). Hope this helps (and hope it works for me too). I will update my progress so as to help others & im still open to suggestions. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cabbytech Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Hi PeeWee, i have the same info in the Haynes manual 1990 to 2000, just be careful with the all rights reserved bit inside the front cover, regarding reproduction of their information etc, let us know how you get on with your problem though, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PeeWee Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Hi PeeWee, i have the same info in the Haynes manual 1990 to 2000, just be careful with the all rights reserved bit inside the front cover, regarding reproduction of their information etc, let us know how you get on with your problem though, Â Cheers, thanks for the advice on the images I put up, I just want to help others with similar problems but if moderators wish to remove them Im fine with it. I doubt Haynes will come after me for it though. Ill be tackling this again from thurday so anyone who has removed the window im happy to hear from beforehand with any tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RelaxedDiver Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 hi, I do remember unbolting the top of the runner and and unscrewing the inside cap of the wing mirror cover, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PeeWee Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 hi, I do remember unbolting the top of the runner and and unscrewing the inside cap of the wing mirror cover, I assumed I would need to remove the whole wing mirror & also the two rubber window seals top of the door? I also see no bolt on the top of the runner, looking at it I thought after all the located bolts on the inner door were taken out the window would pull up & out of said runner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RelaxedDiver Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 I removed the two rubber seals at the top of the door, but i didnt need to remove the whole wing mirror. The bolts I'm reffering to are the ones in the last picture of your first post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PeeWee Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 (edited) I removed the two rubber seals at the top of the door, but i didnt need to remove the whole wing mirror. The bolts I'm reffering to are the ones in the last picture of your first post. Ahh right I know what you mean now. Those nuts on the pic your refering too, I took the front one off but the other one is behind the metal runner? Do I move the window down to access the rear one through the holes in the runner then? Do the rubber seals just pull off then? Was it stubborn when pulling the window out or hard to get back in? Edited September 8, 2010 by PeeWee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RelaxedDiver Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Do I move the window down to access the rear one through the holes in the runner then? Do the rubber seals just pull off then? Was it stubborn when pulling the window out or hard to get back in? Yes the window needs to be moved down for that, have you managed to take it off the regulator? I think the seals just pulled off,just be gentle at the corner of the door as theres a bit of rubber pop riveted on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PeeWee Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I havnt removed the regulater yet no, It may be tomorow when I tackle it due to work & weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingergman Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 is it done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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