Guest rambo Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 right ok, after the hassle i have had with my car lately i go to drop the roof on saturday as it was a nice day and as i press the button......nothing!!!! i have checked the relays and so has markyboy. if i take the green cover off the relays and press it manually the roof will go up or down depending what relay it is, for example the relay for down, take green cover off and press the little metal bit down and the roof pump kicks in and works..... also tested the relays off the battary and they click just as they are supposed to... but still no action from the button, i have changed the fise so i know that its not that!!!!! please help im stumped by it and getting really anoyed with it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sjc Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 hyou can change the button, pop out a window one and plug it in, otherwise maybe one of the saftey relays... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rambo Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 i tried it in a window button and dtill no joy!!! i have tested 3 relays in total, are there any more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest markeyboy Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 do ya wana make up some custom wiring for it? can do that if ya want mate, itl make it work with the engine running too not right i must admit but it can be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rambo Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 mark that would be great,as long as it works. give me a call matey cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sjc Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 mk4s have got 2 safety relays, I aint read the circuit for a while but iirc one of the safetys is for engine off and the other is for tonneu fitted....neither of which are connected on mine lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rambo Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 are they at the back by the motor tho? ot are there any under the seats/carpet/dash etc???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sjc Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 dash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rambo Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 where abouts and could that stop it working off button? im spending the whole afternoon on the car tommorow after work as i gota change sump gasket and oil filter so while im there i might as weill try and solve the problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rambo Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 deos anybody know what the solid blue wire is on the button for the roof? i have voltage coming out of the others but not this one, i checked the relay and 10a fuse is the drivers footwell and they are fine, so are the relays in the boot and the 15a fuse!!!! anybody know about the blue wire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rambo Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 i tryed putting a constant 12v towhere the blue wire is on the switch ( i beleave its for the ignition one) and still have nothing!!!!! any one with any more idea's. the switch works when plugged into the window loom so i know its not the switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Daft as this may sound, but are you trying the switch with the ignition at satge 1.. rather than stage 2 woth the dashlights all on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jay Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 hi, ive wired plenty of power hoods in the past, i dont use the complete loom only the rear part with the 2 green relays, the rest isnt necessary unless you want it all working through the ignition, i always wire mine permanent so you can operate the roof wenever, sod turning the engine off first lol. i have a loom at work and i know where all the wires go,il have a look for you and let you know where the blue one goes... jason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sjc Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Daft as this may sound, but are you trying the switch with the ignition at satge 1.. rather than stage 2 woth the dashlights all on thought it was position "0" for roof to work, poisiton "2" is engine running. come to think you did have your dash lights on last night when you were trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 alaways though it 1 stereo and ancillrys 2, igntion and 3 engine on...either way you deffo shouldn't have the engine warning lights on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sjc Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 i know yours is mk6 rambo, but its still the 4 relay loom (there are 3 relay looms around as well. we know you got power through the contacts but the coils are not pulling in. i cant remember which wires i testd last night, but Im sure I measured power to the coil when switch was not pressed, which seems wrong. Last night where I could not get an earth from the back of the coil could have been because you had ignition on, anything other than position "0" breaks the coil - chassis wire through the saftey relay. hope you sort it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rambo Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 thanks for looking last night, going to ring mark up now and see if he still up for rewireing it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rambo Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 i tryed it in all positions and still a no brainer!!!! its a tuff one this!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sjc Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 try the bk/bl wire to earth, that will bypass the ignition relay. cant make out on drawing if its 85 or 86 anyway its the one with the C in a triangle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cabbytech Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 I have had a few of these in the past where the switch has stopped operating the roof but the 12v + was still there and pressing in the relays manually made the roof work, , and on the ones i have sorted out, it was a case of putting one of the wires from the switch directly to earth, problem is i cant remember the colour of the cable that i shorted to earth, i will see what it is on my mk6 because i had to do it on this one as well quite recently.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jay Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 hi, ive wired up my power hood today on my mk3 cab! ive done plenty, i only use the rear part of the loom with the 2 green relays and wire the rest myself its easy! assuming your mk6 uses the same loom (cant see why it wouldnt) i can tell you how to do it if you like? you should have 3 wires on the switch? yellow, blacl/green, black/blue. is your the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gogogaz Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 hi all new to forums and new to the site bought my mk4 2 weeks ago and got exactly the same problems relays in the boot work but not switch any guide for dummies please cheers gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rambo Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 i will try earthing some wires and seeing what happens let u no soon as Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest markeyboy Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 make sure ur not guna blow any fuses or cook any wires mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sjc Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 make sure ur not guna blow any fuses or cook any wires mate pmsl Rambo dont just go earthing anything, only the chassis side of the coils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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