Nick Barnes Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Bought a brand new rear bumper, already painted in my colour, from an online site here in Holland ( like E-Bay ) spoke to the guy selling it and thought after getting some more info and pics it was the same as i needed for my 2000 1.6i Mk VII ( his was a 1998 ) he had it to do a project on his but then sold the car so it was spare. Picked it up today ( 35.00 Euros ) in Germany 2 hrs away. Got home took off the old one, went to fit the new one, and Grrrrrrrr the exhuast pipe on mine is nearer the middle of the car, than his was, so the hole in his bumper is nearer the side of the car. My tailpiece is a straight piece coming from the end of the rear silencer, I now have to get a new rear box with the bent tailpipe so it comes out of the hole in the bumper nearer the side of the car, not towards the centre. Not a great loss the back box needs replacing anyway, so just makes me do that quicker so I can fit the new bumper on. Another thing I did not notice once i got it home that I didn't notice in the pics, is there is a groove in the new bumper to fit a rubber moulding to, ( mine did not have this it was all solid plastic ) any ideas where I can get this and anyone have a part No or discription of this part ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allblue Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Hi Mk6 bumpers do not have any black plastic moulding on the bumpers. How you got a pic? It may be a Mk5 version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Barnes Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 Hi here are some pics of the old bumper ( on the car ) and the new one. The guy said it was from a 1998 MK VII ? Maybe a different model ( XR3i ? ) or a different year / Mk ? Maybe he got it wrong ( I should of looked more closely but was just pleased to get it for a good price, the bolts / screw holes line up, So now i just need to find a rear box that has the exhaust tip coming out nearer the side of the car, I am sure all the diametres of pipe are the same for the MK 5 / 6 / 7 ? so as long as it comes out of that hole it will be good ? and a rubber moulding in black to go onto it so I can fit it. here are some more pics of the car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doyle 4-5 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) That's a mk 5b bumper. 5b's are sometimes referred to as mk6's. I'm looking for one of those mouldings at the mo and haven't been able to new or good used. Good luck. Iirc the exhaust exit differed between petrol and diesel models and also on engine CC. Edited February 16, 2017 by Doyle 4-5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Barnes Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 That's a mk 5b bumper. 5b's are sometimes referred to as mk6's. I'm looking for one of those mouldings at the mo and haven't been able to new or good used. Good luck. Iirc the exhaust exit differed between petrol and diesel models and also on engine CC. Thanks Doyle I am scouring the local junk yards for a trim, now i know what to look for Hopefully I can sort out a rear box that will also fit ? might have to get one made to fit with a pipe bender or just get a pipe made with no silencer haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Barnes Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 That's a mk 5b bumper. 5b's are sometimes referred to as mk6's. I'm looking for one of those mouldings at the mo and haven't been able to new or good used. Good luck. Iirc the exhaust exit differed between petrol and diesel models and also on engine CC. Hi Doyle maybe this site will help you ? I found it but I need a black strip for mine but maybe you can use one of these I do not know what colour you need ? https://parts.loc8apart.co.uk/nav/auto-part/Ford/Escort/Bumpers-and-Rubbing-Strips.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Barnes Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) also on ebay this guy has MK 5 spares Retroford International Ford spares meandmymonkeymatt1 (38906 )100% I am in holland so they charge me loads to ship GRRRRRR £15.00 postage found a black strip in holland 14.62 Euros Edited February 18, 2017 by Nick Barnes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Barnes Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 Does anyone know if a MK5 end silencer will fit on a MK VII system ? so it comes out of the hole in the bumper in the right place ? is it the same diametre pipe to connect to the existing middle section of a MK VII ? or do I need to buy the middle box as well ? if so will it then fit onto the CAT ? and is there any clearance problems ? mine is a Cabriolet so do I need a Cabriolet one or will any model MK 5 end box fit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest username Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Just get a pipe made up to fit in place of where the back box was IMO. I've made a straight pipe out of bits from the old box on our Mk5 (it had miles of pipework coming out of it!) and it's not too loud. Just right IMO actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Barnes Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 Just get a pipe made up to fit in place of where the back box was IMO. I've made a straight pipe out of bits from the old box on our Mk5 (it had miles of pipework coming out of it!) and it's not too loud. Just right IMO actually. Hmm I did think about that does it not effect back pressure or anything else ? a nice bit of stianless from the connection of the old box could be the way forward and just as cheap ? I know on my old motorbike a Kwaka ZXR 750 I had no baffles in the exhuast they were removable ( I never put them in ), and it sounded wicked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest username Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) Back pressure is a myth Running with no exhaust can cause the valves to overheat and burn (as well as being ridiculously loud and nasty sounding!) and freeing up the exhaust flow a great deal can cause leaner running on carb engines unless corrected by rejetting. Also there are various benefits/drawbacks to pulsed pressure waves reaching the exhaust port at different times (an effect used to great advantage on 2-stroke engines with expansion chambers) but the assertion that engines require "back pressure" is actually incorrect, despite still being a commonly held belief. in reality, zero backpressure is ideal (along with negative pressure waves arriving at the exhaust ports at just the right time to give a boost in the midrange, which would be even better if practical!) On a car, with the exhaust system as long as it is, making modifications to the pipework like this won't have any noticeable effect. Especially with the fuel injection system which can correct the mixture if required via feedback from the lambda sensor. TL:DR- it won't make any appreciable difference on your car (Aside from losing a bit of weight, sounding nicer, making it easier to locate the tailpipe where you need it &, in the case of stainless, looking better) Edited February 18, 2017 by username Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Barnes Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 Update my Escort MK VII will now be a Frankenstein model lol, as you may have read I picked up a rear bumper brand new in my colour cheap 35.00 Euro ( my old one had a big crack in one side ) not till I got it home did I find out its from a MK 5 ( I need to go to specsavers, but also it was not as advertised 1998 ? ) so the exhaust wont come out of the same hole as on a MK 5 bumper !! the end box on my MK VII needed replacing anyway so now I have bought a new end box that will fit a a MK V / VI / VII so it comes out of the hole nearer the side of the car, cheaper than getting a piece of stainless made up to fit onto the middle section without having the last siliencer. Found a rubber strip to also go into the bumper, but they only had it in red that should do just as well ?, waiting for it to be delivered so i can check the colour match So hopefully next week I should get it fixed onto the car, I will add pics when its done . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Barnes Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 new old bumper on the car a MK 5 on a MK VII, better that the old cracked one, the exhaust needs straightning but its on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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